When does a person become a person?

You say, but Jim, it’s not a PERSON it’s a FETUS.

(Fetus is Latin for “Little One”).

If I call it a “Little One” instead of a “Person” has it then lost Person-hood?

If I call a “Flower” a “Rose” does it stop being a flower?

If a “Little One” is not a “Person” the when does a “Little One” become a “Person?”

The Law says “at birth.”

What if the Laws of men change, does a “Little One’s” person-hood change?

And if person-hood changes as man’s laws change what about those affected by the previous definition of person-hood? Can we bring them back from the dead?

When does a “Little One” become a “Person?”

When it is able to live outside the womb?

Technology is always changing, does person-hood change with technology?

When does a “Little One” become a “Person?”

When it has a heart-beat?

That is, quite possibly, less than 3 weeks after fertilization (1).

Or, does a “Little One” become a person when it has brain waves?

Or, expresses pain?

Or, expresses “the right kind of” pain?

No.

Person-hood is intrinsic not circumstantial.

What is the real issue?

The real issue is not denying a fetus is a child to alleviate guilt. The real issue is: is the child wanted? Those whose mind’s left say: If you don’t want it – Kill it. There is no one willing to help you. There is no other alternative. Carrying your baby takes money you don’t have, giving birth at a hospital even more so. Adoptions are horrific, foster care is worse. Killing your baby is the best thing you can do for it.

Those whose thinking is right however know that crisis pregnancy centers will help you financially, emotionally and spiritually. Loving people are waiting to adopt your baby. Adoption and foster care can be a loving alternative when you can’t raise your baby yourself.

Adoption and Foster care horror stories do exist unfortunately. They are the stories that get attention. Adoption and Foster care can be tough for both adoptee and adopter and Foster kids and Foster parents. But millions of kids and their new parents are successful. Those whose mind’s left don’t put the success stories (millions of them) on the evening news usually. But they are real. And your child can be one of them.

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(1) Now, a team funded by the British Heart Foundation (BHF) at the University of Oxford has demonstrated earlier beating of the heart in mouse embryos which, if extrapolated to the human heart, suggests beating as early as 16 days after conception.

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2016-10-11-first-our-three-billion-heartbeats-sooner-we-thought

Honor

27 It is not good to eat much honey,
Nor is it glory to search out one’s own glory.
Proverbs 25:27 (NASB95)

I used to seek honor for myself; out of pride, motivated by insecurity. (But the honor I sought is not the honor that Jesus has). I wanted other people to tell me how great I was to drown out my “silently loud,” deep down, almost hidden from myself, constant fear that I am inadequate, I don’t measure up, I’m a failure. I am repulsed by people like me. I have an inherent aversion to those who are proud. My gut revulsion is because these people don’t recognize that I am the most important person there is, not them.

Jesus did not seek honor for himself, he sought honor for his Father. Jesus went to the cross so that “they would know that You sent me.” So why do I honor Jesus so much, as well? He valued my need for relationship with the Father, more than his own life. He didn’t take into account that I literally hated him and cursed him. That I hurt his people every day. And that I was inherently a rebel. He saw my need for Him and the Father and the Holy Spirit; and He willingly gave up His own life to meet that need. And He rose to give me His life. And I am now adopted; I am his child; and I am free to love.

Jesus wasn’t seeking honor, He was loving.

And I love and honor Him for that.

What do you want? Do you really, really want?

Matthew 7:7, 9, 11, 12 (NASB95)

7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. . . .
9 “Or what man is there among you who, when his son asks for a loaf, will give him a stone? . . .
11 “If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him! . . .
12 “In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

I have always wondered what this passage meant. Is this scripture promising me anything I want if I just ask? Or, more spiritual, promising me anything I ask that is God’s will? Why does God say that what he gives is the best (even if I don’t recognize it as such?). And, what does the Golden Rule have to do with me getting what I want? Do I earn what I want by being kind to others?

One way to sum up the Bible is: Love God, love people.
Can I use this to guide my interpretation?

In verse 12 Jesus says: Always, therefore, love other people (my summary). To me, “therefore” means that to accomplish the previous verses I need to love others. Does that mean I earn what I want by loving others?

Or, does it mean that what I really want (God’s best “loaf”) is to love others?

If I ask, seek, and knock to have God give me love to give to others – he will. When he gives me that love I may not recognize it as the best. But if I choose to treat others the way I want to be treated, God will love that person through me. And joy for – the other person, and me, and God – is the result.

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