The Bible says: You can’t lose Jesus

(It bugs me that the church I was a member with for 30 years won’t discuss with me what I have discovered that contradicts their view. Here’s the latest scripture I have found that contradicts their belief that “you can lose your salvation.”

It is a trustworthy statement:
For if we died with Him, we will also live with Him;
If we endure, we will also reign with Him;
If we deny Him, He also will deny us;
If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.

2 Timothy 2:11–13 (NASB95)

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“If we deny Him, He also will deny us”

“He cannot deny Himself”

So if someone is “denied” they are not of “Himself”

They are not, were not, one with Jesus, or ever “saved.”

You cannot lose your “salvation.”

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Those who interpret this as a license to sin beware!

Before I was saved God punished me severely when I sinned.

After I was saved God chastised me severely when I sinned.

God is not mocked, whatever you sow you will reap.

Am I acting like the God I want them to know better?

Why do I want people to know about God’s grace of eternal security? I want them to know the joy of getting off the performance treadmill. I don’t want them to worry about some day rejecting Jesus and spending eternity without Jesus. But am I acting like the God I want them to know better? A God who loves them unconditionally and gives them eternal life because they love Jesus?

Two pastors, who love Jesus with all their heart, have said by their words and actions:

I don’t want to know.

I had a conversation that was frustrating. I said to one pastor I am depending on Jesus to keep me from falling. That’s eternal security. What are you relying on to keep you from falling? Jesus or yourself? He said Jesus. I said then you believe in eternal security. He shook his head and said no.

I talked to my PhD counselor, (Pretty “head Doctor,” my wife), and she gave me this wise but long-winded advice:

Drop it.

Which brings me to the title of this post. Jesus did not force Himself on others. He respected them and respected their choices. The rich young ruler was personally invited to be a disciple of, and be with, the God of the universe and he turned it down. Jesus didn’t go after him, Jesus respected his choice. And that is what I need to learn to do. I share truth to benefit others. But if they reject it I am not benefitting them by repeating myself. That is harassment.

I will continue to tell the truth I know (including eternal security). But I am giving up on telling those who don’t want to hear.

Stupid?

2 Surely I am more stupid than any man,
And I do not have the understanding of a man.
3 Neither have I learned wisdom,
Nor do I have the knowledge of the Holy One.
Proverbs 30:2–3 (NASB95)

19 This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger;
20 for the anger of man does not achieve the righteousness of God.
James 1:19–20 (NASB95)

My perception of my helplessness produces fear of loss and my reaction to fear of loss is anger. And I feel that anger must be expressed NOW! I am wrong. But at the time I am wrong, I don’t know that I am wrong.

How can I stop this? I have made this mistake more than one time. Or, rather, more than one million times. “Surely I am more stupid than any man.” Proverbs 30:2 (NASB95)

I have asked my godly wife to warn me when I am not thinking right. And, with great courage, she does. But at the time “I am much smarter than she is” and I don’t listen. I have godly friends that I consider consulting. But I figure they too “don’t know as much as me and would just talk me out of ‘setting things straight.'”

What about reading the counsel of God (the Bible)? Aaurgh! I am cut to the heart. How can I argue with God? I am afraid of what He will tell me. Maybe, “for the anger of man does not achieve the righteousness of God.” James 1:19–20 (NASB95) Aaurgh again! I am confronted with absolute truth, wisdom and love. My excuses fall to the floor and shatter.

I am left with a choice.

Obey God and not express sinful anger, but rather trust Jesus and humble myself and work productively through the situation. Or disobey God and reap the consequences of ignoring an all-wise God.

Most recently I chose the latter, and had to write an apology afterwards. But hopefully I will invest more time in reading Jesus’ Word (the Bible) and listening to Jesus in prayer and He will direct me to talk to my godly friends more and especially talk more with my godly wife.

As someone wise once said, “Being charged up with time with God – leaks.” I must spend more time reading the Bible and praying every single day and I will be prepared for the next attack of the enemy.

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