Why won’t Wesleyans talk about this with me?

Can I be sure that I am going to heaven no matter what?

Because my past actions have shown me that I am completely unreliable and if my future is in my hands I will surely fail, I can only trust Jesus to save me from myself.

Can I reject Jesus and go to hell?

Can I even reject Jesus in the first place?

What is going on then with Christians who turn away from following Jesus?

Let’s look at some relevent Scripture:

Romans 7:20 (NASB95)
20But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. (underline mine)

Romans 8:1–2 (NASB95)
1Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. (underline mine)

So can I reject Jesus and go to hell?

If I “reject Jesus” it is no longer I who am doing it but sin living in me. Therefore I am not condemned because I was – at conversion, am now, and will be forever – in Jesus. (He said He will never leave me). For the law of the Spirit of life of Jesus (unmerited favor) has set me free from the law of sin and death.

Can I even reject Jesus in the first place?

Again, let’s look at relevant Scripture:

Ephesians 6:24 (NASB95)
24Grace be with all those who love our Lord Jesus Christ with incorruptible love. (underline mine)

The original Greek for “incorruptible” is:

  1. ἀφθαρσία aphtharsia, af-thar-see´-ah; from 862; incorruptibility; gen. unending existence; (fig.) genuineness:—immortality, incorruption, sincerity.

Strong, J. (2009). A Concise Dictionary of the Words in the Greek Testament and The Hebrew Bible (Vol. 1, p. 17). Bellingham, WA: Logos Bible Software.

So, those who love Jesus love Him with pure, unending love.

But, the Wesleyans say: You still have choice, you still CAN reject Jesus.

So, the Wesleyans are saying: I can experience Jesus’ unconditional love, I can love Him with pure, unending love, and I can reject Jesus at the same time? It may be theoretically possible, but not reasonably chosen.

What is going on then with Christians who turn away from following Jesus?

Consider the following Scripture:

1 John 2:19 (NASB95)
19They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.

Wolves in sheep’s clothing look like sheep. They may sound like sheep. They may even believe they are sheep.

I did.

I called myself a Christian when I was the farthest from being a Christian. I talked the talk, or thought I did. But when God told me I was a sinner, I denied it. He wasn’t talking about your everyday church-going sinner. He was saying I was evil . . . just as evil as the devil. I rejected that and told Him. And I left the church . . . even though I was never “in the church.” (never in Jesus)


Why do Wesleyans teach if you sin and don’t repent, or if you reject Christ, you will go to hell?

I believe it was started as a scare tactic because the truth of Romans and the unlimited grace of God opens up the possibility of unrestrained sin or license to sin. But when grace was offered, more grace was the solution, not hell or punishment.

Romans 2:4 (NASB95)
4Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance? (underline mine)

God gave me things I liked to get my attention and move me to repentance. He also gave me ten years of horrific mental illness to humble me to move me to repentance. I count them both gifts from him, the latter being what I would not want to repeat. But I treasure what He did through it. It was most definitely a kindness.


Once we trust Jesus to save us we are one with Him forever. We can stop worrying about performance based acceptance and get on with allowing Jesus to love others through us for no other reason than . . . we love Jesus and we love others (not because we are threatened with hell).

Author: james bruce mcnaughton

I became Seriously Mentally Ill at age 18, ten years later I got and took the right meds, I accepted Jesus, and my recovery began.

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